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| WGA-EAST PLANS TO SEND SOAP WRITERS DOWN THE DRAIN | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Nov 15 2007, 10:38 PM (1,122 Views) | |
| Steve Frame | Nov 15 2007, 10:38 PM Post #1 |
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WGA-EAST PLANS TO SEND SOAP WRITERS DOWN THE DRAIN Word that writers on some daytime soap operas are continuing to work on the shows during the strike drew sharp comments from the Writers Guild of America East. The writers have been placed in a particularly complicated situation since their shows are already facing uncertain futures and would likely be canceled without fresh episodes. Some writers have opted for "financial core" status, essentially giving up their guild membership, while others are reportedly writing in secret, hoping that the guild does not learn that they are continuing to work on the shows. Most soap operas are still produced by New York advertising agencies representing soap companies. WGA East spokeswoman Sherry Goldman accused the soap-opera writers of "prolonging the strike" and added: "They will never be full members of the Writers Guild again." http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/artic...20drain_1049990 |
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| King | Nov 15 2007, 10:51 PM Post #2 |
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That is so...not intelligent! |
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| Mason | Nov 15 2007, 10:53 PM Post #3 |
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On whose part? The WGA or the soap writers? |
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| OneBadKitty | Nov 15 2007, 11:01 PM Post #4 |
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I understand why the writers are on strike and all that, but the bottom line is that soaps have to have writers now in order to survive. Period. They can not wait until the strike is over. |
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| MichaelGL | Nov 15 2007, 11:02 PM Post #5 |
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^I agree. |
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| Mason | Nov 15 2007, 11:05 PM Post #6 |
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I definitely feel bad for the soap writers (well...the ones who are actually good, anyway). Unlike film and primetime writers, either way, they're pretty much screwed. |
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| MichaelGL | Nov 15 2007, 11:08 PM Post #7 |
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The only HW of a east coast soap I feel bad about is RC of OLTL. If I could guess which writer who is still probably writing for their soap I'd say DK. :unsure: |
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| Mason | Nov 15 2007, 11:11 PM Post #8 |
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Oh, I definitely don't feel bad for the head writers, Michael. It's people on the writing staffs like Peter Brash, Richard and Carolyn Culliton, Paula Cwickly, Stephen Demorest, etc. who actually understand and care about the soap genre that I feel sorry for. |
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| px780 | Nov 16 2007, 02:28 AM Post #9 |
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This is good drama! I think the WGA's anger is a little out of line, though- just because a few soap writers can be broken doesn't mean the important people will. I thought the soap people accused came out and said they aren't going fi-core. Or was that only the Y&R crew? Y'know- I hope they are out their writing in secret. That could get some goodwill from the networks. |
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| Deleted User | Nov 16 2007, 03:10 AM Post #10 |
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I can't say it enough: FUCK the WGA. They're extremists who are from HELL. Literally. I can't believe they lack of compassion they have for below the line employees who are POOR compared to them (key grips, cameramen, etc) who have NO jobs during their fucked up strike. Whohave to sacrifice COLLEGE for their CHILDREN, even their own HOMES, depending on the length of ceased production. THey're IDIOTS. They're ASSHOLES. They're SELFISH. It's sick, and trust me, EVIL. THey're from HELL. |
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| Rick | Nov 16 2007, 04:11 AM Post #11 |
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Clearly, You've never been in a union. The writers should not be blamed for the "below line" employees problems. That blame belongs to the studios who refuse to give writers a stake in Internet and DVD sales. If the damned studio heads weren't so damned greedy, this wouldn't be happening. The writers are not selfish, they dropped their demand for doubling how much they are paid for DVD sales, and are only asking for a raise in didital media. I'm sorry if this is an unpopular opinion, but If I was a writer and my studio released my shows on the internet and other digital outlets, you bet your sweet ass I'd want my fair cut. Call me a selfish bastard all you want, but I wrote it, and I'd be right there picketing as well. Right now, Writers are only paid 1/3 of a penny A THIRD OF A PENNY! for digital downloads, and they are asking for 2.1 cents. I don't see that as evil at all. People need to realize that the writers are the most important people, and the key to any successfull show. They make them and can break them just as easy. Hopefully it doesn't take AMPTP to long to realize that. I don't want my favorite shows in reruns, but I support the WGA 100% and if it takes them 6 months to work it out, so be it. I'll catch up on some reading I've been meaning to do. |
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| King | Nov 16 2007, 07:41 AM Post #12 |
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I agree, Rick. Educate yourself on the situation, JSF. Mason, I meant This is very unintelligent on behalf of the writers who are crossing the picket line. The strike will more than likely be over before we know it (early 2008 is my guess, although it could go on and on, but the WGA is gaining more and more public support every day so...), and they will be out of a job forever because they couldn't sit back for a few months until it was over. It's spontaneous thinking, and it's not good in the long run for their careers. Every writer wants to be working. But the fact is they just can't right now. Anyone who crosses the picket line is essentially fucked when this over. Pardon my French. They are basically giving up their entire futures to work for a few months. |
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| kserox10 | Nov 16 2007, 08:00 AM Post #13 |
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They are acting like idoits! :angry: I feel bad for RC. :( |
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| Sephora | Nov 16 2007, 08:36 AM Post #14 |
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Thanks for saving me all that typing. ITA!! The writers are only hurting themselves and fans. |
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| Tammy | Nov 16 2007, 08:46 AM Post #15 |
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Okay forgive me for being dense but is "financial core" a new way of saying turning into a "scab writer"? Honestly I am not trying to be a smart ass I am curious lol ;) |
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| DramaKing | Nov 16 2007, 11:49 AM Post #16 |
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FiCore = cant survive without the work. can still work after the strike is over. scap = writing behin there back. i cought they are ossed outa the WGA and cant write. |
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| skiman1208 | Nov 16 2007, 01:38 PM Post #17 |
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I support the WGA 1,000%. I feel terrible for all the behind the scenes people that will lose their jobs if a resolution doesn't come soon. Seriously, they don't want to give them mere cents? That is beyond pathetic. However, I do think this strike is going to cause a domino effect. Don't the actors union have renewal time next year? I just hope this is all resolved soon and the soaps survive for many years to come. |
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| Hypnotoad | Nov 16 2007, 02:03 PM Post #18 |
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While I too support the WGA on this I think what they are doing to soap writers is wrong. Soaps operate in a different environment than the rest of the guild. From what I understand, most of the major issues revolve around itunes downloading, DVD sales and other off-network royalties. Well, newsflash, soaps do not work like that. They also cannot go into repeats and so the repeats royalties things hardly applies (save for flashbacks or special holiday episode repeats). It is rare if a soap is downloaded on itunes if at all. And for soap writers, it is better that their content gets out there through as many forums as possible to help the genre survive. There are different issues for different types of writers. All writers are not primetime or movie writers. |
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| px780 | Nov 16 2007, 09:04 PM Post #19 |
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I get where you're coming from, yo! But they did all choose to join a union (sort of- don't you have to join to work as a writer?), and this is the risk that you take. Some people have to be sacrificed for the greater good, and they did pretty much vote unanimously to strike. And I think the domino effect is why the studios have to stay strong right now. A few more pennies to the writers means a few more to producers and a whole lot more to actors, and then the profits back to the studio dip. |
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| Steve Frame | Nov 16 2007, 09:07 PM Post #20 |
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As px said they all voted to strike and if the strike gets them the benefits and more money they want - all the writers will benefit from it. I mean I understand they are having or maybe having a hard time and need to work. But in the end they have to decide is going back to work now worth it. If I go back I lose my WGA membership and thus lose my job later. I mean you can't have your cake and eat it too is what this is. |
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